{"id":1751,"date":"2023-03-25T01:54:34","date_gmt":"2023-03-25T05:54:34","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.wellformedness.com\/blog\/?p=1751"},"modified":"2023-06-26T12:57:41","modified_gmt":"2023-06-26T16:57:41","slug":"defectivity-turkish-part-2-desideratives","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.wellformedness.com\/blog\/defectivity-turkish-part-2-desideratives\/","title":{"rendered":"Defectivity in Turkish; part 2: desideratives"},"content":{"rendered":"

[This is part of a series of\u00a0defectivity case studies<\/a>.]<\/p>\n

Thanks to correspondence with one of the authors I recently became aware of another possible paradigm gap in Turkish. According to \u0130leri & Demirok (2022), henceforth ID, Turkish speakers are uncertain about the form of 3rd person plural desideratives. In this language, desideratives are deverbal nominals which select for and agree with a genitive subject. The desiderative suffix is \/-AsI-\/, where the capital letters mark archiphonemes subject to root harmony, and the 3rd person plural (3pl;.) possessive agreement suffix is \/-lArI\/. However, according to ID’s survey, Turkish speakers rate 3pl. desideratives formed from the root plus \/-AsI-lArI\/ as quite poor, and 3pl. desideratives are exceeding rare in corpora, even compared to other desiderative forms.<\/p>\n

ID relate this observation to something unexpected about the 3rd person singular (3sg.) desiderative. Desideratives select, and agree with, a genitive subject, and the ordinary 3sg. genitive agreement suffix is \/-sI\/, but the 3sg. desiderative, there is apparently a haplology and we get just \/-AsI\/ (e.g., yapas\u0131<\/em>, the 3sg. desiderative of ‘do’) instead of the expected *\/-AsI-sI\/. They suggest that speakers may have reanalyzed \/-AsI\/ as a desiderative allomorph \/-A\/ followed by a 3sg. agreement suffix \/-sI\/, and thus predict that the 3pl. desiderative will be expressed by \/-A-lArI\/, though this is also judged to be quite bad (thus *yapas\u0131lar\u0131\u00a0<\/em>but also *yapalar\u0131<\/em>). However, it is not immediately clear to me why ID expect speakers to hypothesize that the 3sg. desiderative allomorph should generalize to the 3pl.<\/p>\n

This has a rather different flavor than the other defectivity case studies I’ve presented thus far. It could be that there simply are not enough desideratives in this person\/number slot in the input, but I still don’t see what could be objectionable about \/-AsI-lArI\/. Another mystery is that their judgment task finds an unexplained very low acceptability for 2nd person plural desideratives (which seem to be of the form \/-AsI-n\/).<\/p>\n

References<\/h1>\n

\u0130leri, M. & Demirok, \u00d6. 2022. A paradigm gap in Turkish. In Proceedings of the Workshop on Turkic and Languages in Contact with Turkic 7<\/em>, pages 1-15.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

[This is part of a series of\u00a0defectivity case studies.] Thanks to correspondence with one of the authors I recently became aware of another possible paradigm gap in Turkish. According to \u0130leri & Demirok (2022), henceforth ID, Turkish speakers are uncertain about the form of 3rd person plural desideratives. In this language, desideratives are deverbal nominals … Continue reading “Defectivity in Turkish; part 2: desideratives”<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_crdt_document":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[28,4],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1751","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-defectivity","category-language"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.wellformedness.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1751","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.wellformedness.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.wellformedness.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.wellformedness.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.wellformedness.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1751"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/www.wellformedness.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1751\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1797,"href":"https:\/\/www.wellformedness.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1751\/revisions\/1797"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.wellformedness.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1751"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.wellformedness.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1751"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.wellformedness.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1751"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}